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dcoreo

Fury will fight charr, Aj will fight areolla, boxing is fucking cancer


trustinabalenotahoe

This is box


LePetitJeremySapoud

Max please


Gold-Routine7247

Norman, the board is unanimous


Orgazmo_87

Thats wba regualar champ charr who had 1 successful fight in 4ish years against unbeat, and untested, lovejoy


CacoFlaco

I love the way that they resurrect Arreola every 2 years as an opponent for a high profile heavyweight. As if inserting Arreola as an opponent will cause fans to oooh and aahhhh.


AltKite

I'd be surprised if the Arreola rumour was true. I'd expect AJ to take someone tougher than that, Whyte wouldn't surprise me.


Joe_Rogan_is_a_Dwarf

Think they’re going the confidence rebuilding route like when Lennox lost to McCall by KO


[deleted]

I agree. AJ isn’t gonna sink as low as arreola. I still think Otto wallin.


liamrandall

I think it’s about time AJ took an easier fight. They’ll build up to the Whyte fight for early next year probably around April.


AltKite

Whyte is a pretty easy fight.


slickvik9

Pulev wasn’t easy? Ruiz and povetkin were supposed to be easy too. Even usyk was supposed to get crushed.


bozzi16

Yeah because of how good AJ was hyped up to be not how bad those fighters are. Pulev ruiz and Povetkin would be top 2, probably even number 1, on Wilders resume and top 4 on fury’s. Pulev isn’t an easy fight none of those were, arreola is an easy fight.


slickvik9

Admitting AJ was overhyped is something I rarely see here, credit for admitting that


bozzi16

I don’t think he was overhyped, he was steamrolling everyone and I still think he beats fury if he regains his confidence. The fights didn’t seem that big because it was a case of “who does AJ beat next” not “here is AJ against a legit top 10 heavyweight who is dangerous” Fury is in a similar boat to AJ a few year ago, once he gets a few losses people will be saying he was overhyped, he isnt he is that good but none of these guys are untouchable


slickvik9

The confidence is gone forever


bozzi16

You know what I really think there’s a strong chance it could be. I still think he lands on fury and gets a TKO, fury gets stopped standing or the ref stops it after a knockdown but I wouldn’t be surprised if fury beat him either. I’ve always said AJ stops fury and until they get in the ring together I’m sticking with my prediction


Beej1030

But Joshua was such a crazy combination puncher particularly at mid range but with his confidence/ chin issues I don’t think he can be that again. Would love to be wrong


slickvik9

AJ doesn’t have bad intentions anymore. He made a stylistic change after wlad then went all in after Ruiz.


Polk14

The sport that I love that I fucking hate so much!


gumshield45

AJ isn’t fighting Chris Arreola. One random Twitter account which posts boxing memes shoots out a tweet and you guys take it as gospel. Seriously how would “BoxingKingdom14” have insider knowledge like that? There’s a reason it hasn’t been reported elsewhere


thewizard404

It's not a random account. They have 85K followers and the rumours coming from them are pretty much always right. There's a reason almost every boxing writer follows them.


gumshield45

Why has no one else picked up the story then? Two days have passed and no reputable boxing media outlets have put the story out. It’s fake news.


Danji1

Boxing had a lot of unusually huge fights over the past 18 months to be fair.


GoofyTheScot

Ill watch neither


Thomo251

I thought AJ missed deadline part 2.2 though?


Particular-Gain-3397

You didn't here about deadline 4.7?


Squall-UK

Apparently it took over 2 months for Eubank Vs Benn to be arranged/finalised and Fury wants the contract signed in less than 3 weeks. He's a joker.


mrnedryerson

Here is my hot take. AJ and Fury will be announced on the night of Benn vs Eubank Jr to generate maximum exposure.


RRR04_

Eddie Hearn made a recent statement claiming that Fury v Joshua is off as they haven't heard from Fury's team since his last social media video talking about it.


_Sarcasmic_

Eddie Hearn and all promoters say a lot of things. Best to just ignore most of it until their boxers' next fight date is announced.


RRR04_

I never thought this fight would happen anyway. But the consensus going around is that the fight is dead. Fury will fight Dec 3rd against Chisora or Charr, AJ will fight two weeks after that.


icelandiccubicle20

Let's hope so, no one wants to see him get murdered by Charr


Janus-a

I hate how promoters always lie and use the audience as a negotiation tool.


A-Paradise

Hearn doesn’t want the fight because he knows AJ will most likely lose and he’ll loss his cash cow.


GodOfBlobs

ajs already lost twice in a row, fury is the favourite in a fight against usyk. if he loses to a guy who’s supposedly better than the guy he just lost to twice where does ajs stock go? idk if eddies team knows this or they’re actually chasing the fight for that very reason, but either way I don’t see why the fight shouldn’t happen


AddisonRae7

Its a known fact that its AJs side that is dodging this fight


RRR04_

I'm not claiming who is ducking who, just stating that the fight appears to be off along with Hearn's quote.


_Sarcasmic_

Just speculating because none of us know for sure what's going on behind the scenes, but it seems like this isn't just on one side. The negotiations seem to be totally fucked on both teams. Overall lack of communication, Fury's social media shitshow, possible unrealistic demands from either side, AJ's sponsorship obligations, etc. It's a complete and utter mess.


frezz

I think this fight blindsighted everyone. Fury made some bullshit social media video calling out Joshua, Joshua accepted, and now both parties had to scramble to put together this contract. I don't think both parties even wanted this fight, Fury wanted an easy opponent as a tune-up to Usyk next year, AJ wants a few easy opponents to rebuild his confidence and set the platform for another title shot. Both parties realistically can't say no given the amount on the table though, but both are happy to walk away if they can keep their reputation intact.


hotyogurt1

Yeah, but since we also never really know the whole truth people only end up going off of reputations and precedent. AJ has set the precedent that he’ll fight anyone worth fighting. Fury has not set that precedent. He’s legit only fought Wilder and everyone else has been dog shit. He’s also always full of shit, so it’s really hard for people not to assume his side is the one that’s full of shit.


Mundane-Document-810

Decade undefeated Klitschko was dogshit? Whyte had 7 years of wins with an avenged loss and is suddenly dogshit now that Fury demolished him? I think AJ clearly wants the fight. I think Fury actually wants it despite all the theatrics. Anyone who steps into the ring three times against Wilder isn't really afraid, no matter how you try to spin in. Warren wants it because he thinks Fury will win and will a shit ton of cash. Hearn is the biggest question mark IMO, he stands to lose a cash cow in AJ. Ultimately I think they all want it and lawyers are just doing their shit to try and make everything work legally. Most of this talk of alternative fights and deadlines is just attempts to leverage more in the negotiations.


Marvinkmooneyoz

does losing to FURY, the best in the world, make your being a cash cow, not the case anymore? At this point, no one thinks Joshua is the best in the world, EVERYONE is expected to lose against FURY. So go ahead and fight the best, right?


hotyogurt1

As expected you bring out the Klitschko fight. When was that fight btw? You have to go all the way back 7 years to pick out a good win of his that isn’t Wilder lol. Whyte has been washed for a while now. That win meant Jack shit lol. I’m not saying fury is afraid. I’m saying he’s full of shit. Always been and always will be.


Colest

> Whyte has been washed for a while now. That win meant Jack shit lol. The Curious Case of Dillian Whyte: He's AJ's 2nd best win and was widely rated 4th/5th in the division until the Povetkin fight but he doesn't count for shit when other boxers beat him. Yet somehow, AJ still has the alleged best resume in the division.


hotyogurt1

Yeah because when did AJ beat him? Was it before or after Whyte had been beaten down multiple times. It’s like you can’t fathom fighters bring better at different stages of their careers lol. Like holy fuck it’s actually the dumbest argument that you’re making. By this logic, you can say that Canelo’s win over GGG was amazing. Because hey he actually beat GGG!


Colest

Are you afraid to answer my question?


hotyogurt1

Both Whyte and Joshua had a similar amount of fights.(15~). They were both around the same age (25-27). And they were both undefeated. Your question makes no sense. The Whyte that Fury fought had already been KOed twice and been in tough fights. You’re obviously not going to agree so there was really no point in responding.


Colest

>Both Whyte and Joshua had a similar amount of fights.(15~). This is a lie. AJ had 43 amateur fights and 15 pro fights. Whyte had 6 amateur fights and 9 pro fights when they fought. >They were both around the same age (25-27). And they were both undefeated What does AJ's age and being undefeated have to do with this? I asked if the 2015 Whyte with 9 pro bouts on his record is a better W than the 2020 Whyte that fought Povetkin. I assume you're gonna dodge the question again because you rightfully know that it's beyond moronic to answer "Yes" to this but your previous posts hinge on that. No, a 15 fight Whyte is not a better win than the version that fought Povetkin or Fury just because AJ was greener at the time they fought. Whyte has only gotten better and him getting chinned is because he fought people that saw through a glaring flaw in his style and popped him. It's not because he somehow dropped in his caliber as a fighter by winning all his fights from 2015 to 2020. More importantly, if a win from 7 years ago over a worse version of Whyte is AJ's best win after Klistchko, what's that say about his resume?


Colest

>Was it before or after Whyte had been beaten down multiple times. It’s like you can’t fathom fighters bring better at different stages of their careers lol. So the 2015 Whyte, a fighter with 9 whole professional fights and 15 TOTAL fights under his belt, is better than the 2020 Whyte that fought Povetkin and is better than every other one of AJ's wins EXCEPT Klitschko. Is that what you're saying?


Izzyisagod

Full of shit but would whhhoooop on AJ


hotyogurt1

That's not even the point though lol, cause I don't even disagree that he'd be the favorite.


Izzyisagod

Has Tyson Fury made exaggerations? Yes, all the time, I just don’t get the point your trying to make?


hotyogurt1

There's a difference between exaggerations and outright lying. The guy retires every other month, lies about fights that he's going to have, and lies about plenty of other shit. The guy lied about a donation too lol


frezz

Klitschko was 39


CacoFlaco

Fury probably won't fight anyone on that date. Training camp cuts into his talking time.


orsom_smelles

According to boxing social's Facebook page, Eddie Hearn has said Tyson Fury's team have sent a contract to Derek Chisora for a fight on 3rd December... Trolling? Putting on pressure to sign? AJ fight definitely off? 🤔 The plot thickens!


Squall-UK

Allegedly Fury has sent Chisora a contract. Just about says it all if it's true. Wonder if there's an unrealistic deadline on that one? He's making boxing a pantomime.


RonNumber

I know I am naive, but surely the champion should fight someone high ranked? At least in the top ten, surely?


mr_no_print

But will Fury retire right after?


HakuChikara83

Fury fights on BT box office and AJ fights on Sky Sports box office. Can’t imagine either one of those companies is going to give away PPV money for the other. If Fury really wanted to ‘give the fans’ the fight everyone wants then they would put it on a free for everyone channel for maximum exposure.


Marvinkmooneyoz

can they not make a deal where customers can buy it through either? Is their previous deal history really going to be a problem? Boxing is always two boxers, how is making viewing deals some issue? Im a noob, i really dont know how these things go. I get there isnt really a league like for team sports, but im confused how getting this to TV is somehow problematic


HakuChikara83

There is the potential to lose half your customers if they share it which means half the revenue, big business don’t like that sort of thing. Also Sky and BT don’t easily get along since BT ‘overpaid’ for the CL rights a while back which Sky had. They’re also in competition for other things like broadband and telephone and mobile deals


Sh4kyj4wz

aj is on Dazn now


HakuChikara83

Yea but it’s still broadcast in the Uk on sky sports box office


MarcoToon

I don't think this fight will happen, but if it did: is there even a 1% chance for AJ to pull it off?


SKOElephant

Obviously yes. AJ is a heavyweight champion who has beaten HoF boxers on his way to the top. He's got a good chance of winning, if the fight gets made.


fuckthewholeroster

Man just who do you think Fury is? Can we stop acting like Fury is this untouchable god? He got touched up by lesser boxers than AJ.


icelandiccubicle20

Not saying he'll win, but Fury is considerably less of a stylistic nightmare for Joshua than Usyk is.


fuckthewholeroster

I’m not saying AJ will win either. I just fucking hate it how apparently AJ is this 8 year old kid compared to Fury.


reeeeeeeeeee78

Why? Fury's actually significantly harder to land on the usyk is. I don't know where the narrative came from but usyk gets punched a lot, especially in the first four rounds. His uniqueness is solid offense and work rate that doesn't fade in rounds 8 to 12. Everytime he's fought elite fighters he's gotten his face marked up badly, usually in the first half of the fight. Aj who's knocked on for being stiff hit him clean and had him in trouble early in both fights. Generally speaking anyone who's fought fury can tell you that it's a pain in the ass to best fury's range and hit him clean. The exception oddly being someone who isn't good at boxing (wilder).


Chicanery-McGill

Usyk is harder to knock down than Fury. Usyk has never been knocked down as a pro whereas Fury has been knocked down over 5 times iirc (by relative nobodies and blown up cruiserweights, too). Usyk does catch punches but he's much less susceptible to power shots, which Fury catches now and again, usually as a result of momentary defensive negligence. Fury has got a slick defense but sometimes he turns off


fuckthewholeroster

If a guy who literally has one punch in his arsenal can touch Fury you can bet your last dollar bill AJ can do more. If you’ve been paying attention he isn’t as illusive anymore and if he even thinks about handling AJ like he did Wilder I can see AJ beating the fat off his body.


AddisonRae7

fury cant be knocked out. aj isnt beating him on points


fuckthewholeroster

Lmfao so now Fury can’t be knocked out lmao. Let me guess, he can also walk on water? Turn water to wine?


-503-

Aj quit against ruiz


lineal_chump

I would put it at 1 in 3, or somewhere around here. AJ would be an underdog, but 1 in 3 is a significant chance to upset.


freshmeat2020

Yep fair view imo. One bomb landing clean either way could do the damage and they'll both find opportunities to land. Really dislike the attitude that one fighter simply cannot lose to another, especially when they do win and the same people come out gloating. This isn't how the sport works lol


AddisonRae7

No


Change-up21

It likely won't be AJ. It will be Charr or someone else. When fans questions his opponent selection, they will blame it on AJ and his team. Reminds me of the "last minute" Jermall Charlo vs Sulecki matchup after the Munguia talks fell apart.


liamrandall

Fury will desperately try and get Chisora to avoid the inevitable backlash if it’s Charr.


geordieColt88

Is chisora better than Charr both are gatekeepers at best who should be nowhere near title shots


liamrandall

Oh I know that but average joe on the street and be confinced the Chisora fight is competitive, whilist they won't have a clue who Charr is.


DistanceAlone6215

Theres every reason for Team AJ not to want this fight and for every reason for Team Fury to want this fight. I believe the hold up is from Hearn. Of course he doesnt want this fight. A loss to Fury would be devestating. Losing badly to a British domestic rival after 2 losses in a row would put a huge dent in his box office potential


No-Shoe5382

I would honestly say pretty much exactly the opposite. AJ will have to fight his way to a mandatory position to get a title shot again, something that will probably take him about 18 months to do. It might be 2 years before AJ fights for a belt again, 2 important years of his career, 2 of his prime years. This is an opportunity to win a world title back immediately and make shit loads of money doing it, for me its a no brainer for AJ. Fury on the other hand would be taking a massive and unnecessary risk a few months before he's due to fight in the first unification fight in the heavyweight division since Lennox Lewis vs Evander Holyfield. Why fight the 3rd or 4th best guy in the division right before a guaranteed unification fight? Especially when he knows he can fight AJ at any time and it'll be a massive fight.


Zeke1216

I feel like the opposite. Aj is an easy fight for fury and big money. Why wouldn’t he want it now ? Aj could probably lose again and the fight will lose hype. There’s nothing aj has that can trouble fury. The way I see it playing out is fury just outboxing Aj bad in the early rounds and getting frustrated and in his head. First mistake and is lights out. Fury mental strength is too much for Aj and Aj is to slow and robotic to bother fury. Wilder night might be a worse boxer than aj, but his power was the only thing keeping fury on edge. Aj don’t have that power. Easy win, might as well take it now when you can get the most out of it


No-Shoe5382

AJ is not an easy fight for anyone. He might not win but he's a handful for every HW in the world.


slickvik9

Fury and Joyce would beat him up, wilder would knock him out. Dubois would be an even fight.


No-Shoe5382

Lol whenever I get a notification from your username I know its gonna be some nonsense about Anthony Joshua.


Zeke1216

Easy fight for fury


No-Shoe5382

You're drastically overestimating Fury's ability if you think AJ is an easy fight for him


RedstripeRhapsodyHP

Otto Wallin isn’t an easy fight for Fury, AJ certainly won’t be.


Chazdoit

Wilder probably thought the same, look how he ended up


RedstripeRhapsodyHP

Only one of those fights was easy for Fury, he nearly got knocked in the first and he was well below the standard he set in the second fight the third time round.


Chazdoit

> he was well below the standard he set in the second fight lol what are you talking about?


RedstripeRhapsodyHP

Are you really suggesting the third fight was easy for him, particularly compared to the second fight?


Marvinkmooneyoz

except FURY, honestly, he's just too complete. Tall, long, heavy, recovers IF knocked out, smart, agile, head movement....of course, Fury can't do stupid show-boating, but he's going to control the pace of the fight 80% of the time. Joshua, Im sad to say, I just dont think he can string together a dangerous brazen combination against Fury. Sure, he can decide "now is a good time to go in for a risky first move" but he cant assess quickly enough if its worth follwing up. he ABSOLUTELY had oppurtunities against Usyk, where he made a move, got in, got a good hit, or at least had Usyk on the defensive, but he just didnt recognize when he had won an advantage, he just didnt leverage. If you cant recognize that youve earned some advatnage you CANT beat Fury.


-503-

was an easy fight for Ruiz and Usyk so thats another lie by matchroom bots Ruiz battered him, dropped him 4 times and made him quit Usyk schooled him 10-2 in his backyard and wobbled him several times


AltKite

There are good reasons for Tyson to not want it as well. If the Saudis are offering up a huge site fee in February for the Undisputed clash, Fury taking a fight where he could either be hurt, or worse, lose, in December is seriously risky, even if it will do big numbers. AJ will be there for Fury after Usyk, it's a massive risk to take it before that fight. 2 career-high paydays could turn into 1.


kwangle

Fury has fought Wilder three times so I don't think he is worried about Joshua.


AltKite

Wilder is not definitely a tougher fight than AJ.


reeeeeeeeeee78

I'm not sure. Furys generally hard to hit. For whatever reason wilder had more success then he ought to finding the mark on fury with his right. I wouldnt be surprised if aj is the harder fight for most boxers, but wilder is harder specifically for fury.


kwangle

Wilder is fast, that's why. Probably a major reason he hits so hard: force = mass * velocity squared. That means if you punch twice as fast with the same weight of punch the force is 4 times as much.


reeeeeeeeeee78

It's also usually rather telegraphed. I think it's actually the range that catches people off guard. When he starts to windmill basically half the ring is suddenly in range. I think people assume they're out of range sometimes when they aren't. Fury always enjoys a serious range advantage vs everyone. That might be why he specifically was caught off guard by it several times.


kwangle

Whatever Wilder's got, it's special and works even against very good boxers. I think a few have mentioned that he is fast, unconventional and covers distance very quickly and is much more awkward than he seems.


slickvik9

Wrong


AltKite

This is such bullshit. There's not nearly enough evidence of Wilder against top opposition to say he's better than AJ.


slickvik9

Wilder would KO in AJ within 4 rounds


AltKite

Wilder couldn't KO Szplika, Washington or Molina in 4 rounds.


slickvik9

They all have better chins than AJ. Or did at the time


AltKite

Lol what a shit troll you are.


hifromsydney

AJ a confirmed dosser-bitch.


Bobo_Balde2

Mahmoud Omeirat Charr 💎💎💎💎💎💎💎


dennyk91

I think Fury should fight someone like Andy Ruiz jr. or Michael Hunter. A smaller fighter with speed if he wants to be ready for Usyk and not get shit for fighting anymore unknown guys.


TheFlexigon

Really becoming sick of boxing now. You just know if we ever get Fury v AJ, they'll both be way past their best (AJ is on the cusp of that anyway)... is something drastic needed to make these fights happen (a big rule change) because I can't deal with these super fights being mothballed because of the promotional/managerial side of things.


stuntedmonk

Even though Josh doesn't have a chance. I am frickin excited!


g0juice

Hopefully he trains legs this time.


rock_Banana

No sugar hill ??