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Kookiebanookie

No Australian is surprised by this lmao


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gcs85

Hungarian here, I consume my Australian news through thejuicemedia, it is very informative too. :)


Kookiebanookie

A Canadian that knows Friendlyjordies! Yeah, shit isn't looking too crash hot. I live right near the Great Barrier Reef in a popular tourist city, so I tend to lean towards more progressive and green political stances. But I'm in Queensland, which us notoriously fairly conservative (but currently we have a Labor government, so hopefully things progress well). I do not claim to know a lot about politics but I know when I'm not happy with what's happening.


David_ungerer

Just a reminder, if your government wanders to far progressive/green our government (USA) is willing and ready to correct the will of your citizens . . . Especially, it you expect the oligarchs/multi-national corporations to pay for the policies !


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Show_Me_Your_Rocket

"But y'know, imagine if LaBoR WeRe In GoVeRnMeNtTtT"


Bokbreath

Not so sure about that. There's a large cohort of presumably Australians that brigade on anyone criticising their govt. here.


CloudsOfMagellan

There's a difference between real criticism and Fox News fueled misinformation about them being like North Korea because of COVID restrictions. The current federal government are an awful useless pack of science denying rapists, fraudsters, religious nutters, corporatists, and pants shitters. They're also not putting us in camps and we don't need American boots on the ground here to save us.


benderbender42

I got annoyed about Americans ignorantly attacking left wing state govt covid measures / spewing a bunch of miss information, while completely ignoring the police state like security laws being passed by the right wing fed govt. Surely secretive security laws and media censorship is the thing that's the problem not having to wear a mask inside or a couple of lockdowns in a couple of cities ?


xvf9

It’s slightly complicated. There’s a shitload of misinformation (mainly in America) about Australia’s COVID regulations and also our gun laws. Those things are generally very popular in Australia so criticism of those things will be strongly disputed by Australians. But otherwise we generally think our right wing government are a bunch of incompetent conservative fuckwits who are ruining everything good about Australia, so we are happy to see them embarrassed on an international platform.


Richard_D_Glover

That's nice to say, but we'll see how it goes come election time later this year. If they get in again for a *third* term, then it speaks volumes to what Australians 'generally think'.


Gr1mmage

What you find is that a significant portion of people come election time say "yeah Scomo is a rotten, inept, corrupt cunt and his social policies are awful. On the other hand, he's promised to give me $5 more than Labor so obviously I'm voting for him"


Richard_D_Glover

... and Australia's CPI rating continues to tumble ...


Gr1mmage

How great is negative gearing though?


Anothergen

**A fourth term** you mean. Abbott won in 2013, Turnbull won in 2016 and Scovid McAllegedlyShitHimselfAtEngadineMaccasThatOneTimeAfterASharksGame in 2019. The polls look horrific for the Coalition right now, but the plan was always to kill Christmas so we're past the main wave by the election. The question is if Scovid's gamble on Australians being too stupid to remember their Government's 3 years of 'I don't hold the hose mate', wanking on parliamentary desks, desperately trying to infect the country with Covid and pork barreling. It is honestly shocking how bad this government has been. The days of Turnbull and Abbott seem like a distant dream at this point.


Richard_D_Glover

Oh man that's so much worse than I thought. I have no faith this year will be any different in this case.


Show_Me_Your_Rocket

A fourth LNP term will be disastrous for the working class millennial and younger, as well as low-income families.


Anothergen

One the plus side, no party has managed to win an election with the same leader twice since 2004: 2007: Rudd (Labor) 2010: Gillard (Labor) 2013: Abbott (Coalition) 2016: Turnbull (Coalition) 2019: Morrison (Coalition) With Morrison retained this close to an election, he's unlikely to be retained, and the polling, again, is pretty horrific for him. He may have pulled off the miracle in 2019, party due to Palmer laundering the alt right vote for them, but this one is an even bigger mountain. I'm not convinced there's enough pork for the barrels.


benderbender42

If you look at the 2 party preferred its looking pretty bad for the LNP right now. We'll see what kind of scare / miss information campaign they come up with on the next few months https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2022_Australian_federal_election


Auchenflower

Labor could be ahead 60-40 in TPP and we'd still be nervous thanks to 2019.


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xvf9

Joe Rogan (I could probably just finish there) misrepresenting Australian satire as government propaganda: https://www.pedestrian.tv/online/joe-rogan-australia-skit-propaganda/


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mana-addict4652

Bullshit. Most Australians on here are against the Liberal National Coalition government.


WerribeeIsHawaii

Nah the Australians are very very aware, it's mostly Americans defending our federal government and attacking all our state leaders.


Kookiebanookie

Really? Thats so disappointing to hear.


mana-addict4652

No this guy is just talking shit.


Bokbreath

Eh. I figure they're wrapped up in the flag. Probably get away with it today though. It's their equivalent of July 4th. None of them will be here.


Kookiebanookie

Im Australian haha


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Kookiebanookie

Nah mate, no stress.


ChokesOnDuck

Generally if you wrap yourself in the Australian flag people will look at you like you are a racist nut.


GonnaBeEasy

The fuck are you talking about with your comments you’re clearly not Australian and have no clue.


thotdistroyer

Mate I'm pissed, drrinkn me XXXX gold and still ere. Fuck scomo


KillTheBronies

Too fuckin hot to go anywhere else.


Standard-Ad-6213

Our flag day is a bit complicated, so we get the critiquing as well. Add in some of the thanksgiving style colonisation drama for today.


benderbender42

Australian Invasion day in kinda the opposite of American Independence day


Bokbreath

Not for native Americans


m_and_ned

On the internet no one knows if you are a drop-bear


rinkystingpiece

Aye, wtf happened to the "lucky country"? Sounds more like the "suсkу fuсkу fi' dolla" country, with stormtroopers on the streets, and everyone locked in struggling to afford anything.


hondo9999

The Netflix show called *Secret City* may not be too far from the truth.


Late_Advance_8292

40+ percent of Aussies would think this is fake, unfortunately. But no Aussie with a brain is surprised by this.


-businessskeleton-

Australians : this is terrible Also Australians : votes in smug cunt


Taint_What_You_Do

Yeah, the drop from 85 (near the best in the world) in 2012 to 73 now shows just what the Liberals have done while in federal government (and for you Americans, the Liberals are the right wing party). Fuck those worthless pieces of shit.


wubbbalubbadubdub

It's impossible for Labor to get voted in so long as Murdoch controls the majority of Australian media. 6 months before every election all Newscorp owned media starts running front page hit pieces on Labor and heaping praise on the Libs. Aussie voters have a notoriously bad memory. Add on to that, old people, rich people, racists, and bogans who just vote conservative no matter what... Barring unusual circumstances we will never get another left leaning government in Aus.


JamaicaPlainian

Same in US. Impossible for progressives to get in because of massive right wing propaganda. Best we can do is vote in right wing president instead of far right nutjob.


Chiliconkarma

Murdoch killed Australia.


dollabillgates

And who was voted in in 2013 I wonder


Standard-Ad-6213

Australians: But albo just doesn't seem like a leader. :(


xvf9

“I don’t see him on the news so he must not say or do anything”


Standard-Ad-6213

"They just criticise, don't see them coming up with anything better.


Phlanispo

Not a big surprise, but just disappointed that we're on Hungary's level now. Prime Minister Scott Morrison's LNP government has been vocally opposed to a federal anti-corruption commission. Recently the New South Wales state Premier (Governor equivalent) was forced to resign over corruption, and Morrison has been publicly trying to recruit her to enter federal Parliament since then. I could spend hours explaining the corrupt influence of the Murdochs and the mining tycoons, or detail the rapist Attorney-General or Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce's exploits. We need that federal anti-corruption commission so freaking bad.


cat357367547

The headline is misleading trash. The recent point decline is on par, not the ranking.


plasmasprings

Yeah, long way to go to reach that: Australia: 73 (5% drop), Hungary: 43 (9% drop, wtf)


GreyGreenBrownOakova

Australia is ranked 18th least corrupt in the world, Hungary is ranked 73rd, behind South Africa.


autotldr

This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/25/australia-records-its-worst-ever-score-on-anti-corruption-index-after-decline-to-match-hungarys) reduced by 77%. (I'm a bot) ***** > Australia has recorded its worst ever score on a key measure of corruption after a long-term decline equal to that of authoritarian Hungary. > Australia recorded a score of 73 from 100, a four point drop from its standing in recent years, and the worst result since Transparency International adopted its current approach to measuring corruption in 2012.Australia is still well above the global average and sits high in the global rankings, at 18th, but is behind New Zealand, Singapore and Hong Kong in the Asia-Pacific. > The failure to reform Australia's foreign bribery laws and take greater action to regulate lobbying, donations, and the revolving door between big business and politics were also cited by Transparency International, as were lax financial regulations, which allowed Australia to be used as a launching pad for corruption in the region. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/sct2jb/australia_records_its_worst_ever_score_on/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~619895 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **Australia**^#1 **corruption**^#2 **International**^#3 **Transparency**^#4 **federal**^#5


drunkill

A decade of conservatives in power will do it.


HopingToBeHeard

I don’t always like this types of rankings, but I like that they tell you why they are taking points away.


GardenSprings

As a Hungarian, I had no idea things were this bad down under. F in the chat for my boomerang throwing bros.


GreyGreenBrownOakova

The title is misleading. [Australia is ranked 18th least corrupt in the world.](https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2021) Hungary is ranked 73rd, behind South Africa . Both countries *declined* by 4 "points". Most of the western world is also in decline, according to the organisation.


Urissyma22

Too many established politicians benefit shamelessly from these corrupt practices. We need fresh faces who are prepared to make real changes for the good of the community.


Chiliconkarma

You need free media and somebody to take out the work of Murdoch.


Auchenflower

We got the leadership we deserved. The 2019 election was flipped by aspirational rent seekers and a mining billionaire's ad campaign. So it's no wonder the Government behaves this way. Despite the polls I don't hold out much hope for this year's election. We really are the lucky country run by second rate people.


WhyDeleteIt

Is this a surprise? Even the highest ranking politicians in Australia have been shown to be bought and paid for in the past: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/23/gough-whitlam-1975-coup-ended-australian-independence >Australia briefly became an independent state during the Whitlam years, 1972-75. An American commentator wrote that no country had “reversed its posture in international affairs so totally without going through a domestic revolution”. Whitlam ended his nation’s colonial servility. He abolished royal patronage, moved Australia towards the Non-Aligned Movement, supported “zones of peace” and opposed nuclear weapons testing. >Although not regarded as on the left of the Labor party, Whitlam was a maverick social democrat of principle, pride and propriety. He believed that a foreign power should not control his country’s resources and dictate its economic and foreign policies. He proposed to “buy back the farm”. In drafting the first Aboriginal lands rights legislation, his government raised the ghost of the greatest land grab in human history, Britain’s colonisation of Australia, and the question of who owned the island-continent’s vast natural wealth. >Latin Americans will recognise the audacity and danger of this “breaking free” in a country whose establishment was welded to great, external power. Australians had served every British imperial adventure since the Boxer rebellion was crushed in China. In the 1960s, Australia pleaded to join the US in its invasion of Vietnam, then provided “black teams” to be run by the CIA. US diplomatic cables published last year by WikiLeaks disclose the names of leading figures in both main parties, including a future prime minister and foreign minister, as Washington’s informants during the Whitlam years. >Whitlam knew the risk he was taking. The day after his election, he ordered that his staff should not be “vetted or harassed” by the Australian security organisation, Asio – then, as now, tied to Anglo-American intelligence. When his ministers publicly condemned the US bombing of Vietnam as “corrupt and barbaric”, a CIA station officer in Saigon said: “We were told the Australians might as well be regarded as North Vietnamese collaborators.” >Whitlam demanded to know if and why the CIA was running a spy base at Pine Gap near Alice Springs, a giant vacuum cleaner which, as Edward Snowden revealed recently, allows the US to spy on everyone. “Try to screw us or bounce us,” the prime minister warned the US ambassador, “[and Pine Gap] will become a matter of contention”. >Victor Marchetti, the CIA officer who had helped set up Pine Gap, later told me, “This threat to close Pine Gap caused apoplexy in the White House … a kind of Chile [coup] was set in motion.” >Pine Gap’s top-secret messages were decoded by a CIA contractor, TRW. One of the decoders was Christopher Boyce, a young man troubled by the “deception and betrayal of an ally”. Boyce revealed that the CIA had infiltrated the Australian political and trade union elite and referred to the governor-general of Australia, Sir John Kerr, as “our man Kerr”. >Kerr was not only the Queen’s man, he had longstanding ties to Anglo-American intelligence. He was an enthusiastic member of the Australian Association for Cultural Freedom, described by Jonathan Kwitny of the Wall Street Journal in his book, The Crimes of Patriots, as “an elite, invitation-only group … exposed in Congress as being founded, funded and generally run by the CIA”. The CIA “paid for Kerr’s travel, built his prestige … Kerr continued to go to the CIA for money”. [...] >On 11 November – the day Whitlam was to inform parliament about the secret CIA presence in Australia – he was summoned by Kerr. Invoking archaic vice-regal “reserve powers”, Kerr sacked the democratically elected prime minister. The “Whitlam problem” was solved, and Australian politics never recovered, nor the nation its true independence.


sigma1331

they can learn from the U.S., just rename it to lobbying


MiddleAgedGrump

My understanding is New Zealand doesn't have an anti-corruption commission or an equivalent. Yet it appears we haven't lost our 3rd place standing. What gives?


yagami2119

NZ don’t have a corrupt party in power.


Chiliconkarma

Murdoch went for the US, NZ wins by not being big enough for the monsters to eat first.


whyohwhythis

Doesn’t surprise me. Too much hand shaking with politics and big business. Our politicians should be audited with a fine tooth comb.


BluehibiscusEmpire

Well you can always join the countries that will give their anti corruption statistics themselves:).. No statistics no problem. For bonus points you can arrest journalists and social workers that challenge your interpretation:)


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NinelivezAU

The mistake you're making is thinking this is new for us here in Australia, the fact is we have always been very corrupt and authoritarian.


_Plastics

Take that ya filthy criminals on West Island. Just another way Downunderer is better.


m_and_ned

That sucks. Well maybe next year will be better.


The-Jesus_Christ

The Libs have learnt that there is no punishment to their actions and just stopped hiding their corruption. It's an open book at this point.


Ibe_Lost

Thankyou Scott Morrison you have over achieved in something this election.


damon_modnar

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi! Hmmm. Maybe we need an anti-corruption commission. Scotty? Are you there Scotty? You did promise. *The failure to reform Australia’s foreign bribery laws and take greater action to regulate lobbying, donations, and the revolving door between big business and politics were also cited by Transparency International, as were lax financial regulations, which allowed Australia to be used as a launching pad for corruption in the region.* It makes me think: Cui bono? Well, it can't be the opposition party because they're not in power. Maybe another party?


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Taint_What_You_Do

With Murdoch's media power, and an eviscerated national broadcaster, it's no wonder we don't hear all that much bad shit about the current government.


reichya

Imma just leave this here so you can update yourself on the shady shit our government has been up to. https://chaser.com.au/national/an-exhaustive-list-of-the-liberal-partys-corruption-over-the-last-7-years/


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xvf9

My finger was hovering over the downvote button for a good few seconds there before I sensed the tone…


WerribeeIsHawaii

I'm sorry, what? The list of scandals and corruption (especially over the last 7 years) is ridiculous! From housing to water all the way down to mines..?


nagrom7

PM fucking off to Hawaii during the biggest bushfires in recent memory? PM sitting on his arse and not ordering enough vaccines or RAT tests despite everyone telling him we needed to? Attorney General being forced to resign after being accused of rape around the same time that the defence minister is accused of covering up a rape that happened in her office in parliament house? Toxic culture amongst government staffers that include harassing female staff and MPs and even stupid shit like taking pictures of them wanking onto a female MPs desk? Giving billions in taxpayer money designed to keep businesses afloat during the pandemic to companies recording record profits and then refusing to even attempt to get any of it back? This was all just off the top of my head, and all within the current parliamentary term (there's shitloads more if you count the prior 2 terms the Liberals have been in government). If you think we haven't had any scandals or anything to complain about, you haven't been paying attention.


xvf9

> Attorney General being forced to resign after being accused of rape around the same time that the defence minister is accused of covering up a rape that happened in her office in parliament house? And then sues the national broadcaster with a million dollar slush fund from an undisclosed donor. Loses the case but calls a press conference to claim victory. Fuck me dead that was a shit show.


nagrom7

Actually it got worse. He didn't initially resign because of the rape allegation, but was reshuffled to a more minor ministerial position. He didn't resign from the ministry until it came out that his legal costs were being bankrolled by unknown donors via a trust fund that Porter refused to name. After several days of outrage against the PM for refusing to sack him, he finally got the push from Cabinet and also eventually announced that he'd be retiring next election.


xvf9

> Actually it got worse. That’s the LNP motto, isn’t it?